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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- So much tension this chapter... But honestly, I'm not surprised how this developed with Floch's involvement. Very satisfying to watch. The Daz scenes were despairing to see though. What a crazy chapter with the cliffhanger. |
Stark700Apr 6, 2020 8:57 AM
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| And the dream they had together ends like a nightmare. |
 • They want to know what became of the heart they gave. Because the fighting isn’t over yet.” |
| Best chapter since chapter 125. |
| finally back to some action, reiner and annie in their titan form together was so satisfying to see. damn floch also kiyomi's badass self defence was great too rip daz and samuel, their dream ended as a nightmare |
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| Great chapter, those last few pages were really intense. I liked the parallels between Armin and Bert both of them had to betray their "allies" when they didn't wanted to. |
| Damn that was a crazy chapter, those last panels tho :o I like to see that things aren't going smoothly for Armin and Co, I like to see this kind of consequences. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| You don't know how much I fuckin waited for that Floch's face of pain. Yet he still survives. I really can't wait until his painful death. Also, didn't remember Samuel at all. He wasn't in Eren's first dying squad? Great chapter. |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| Great chapter highlighting all the moral dilemma's that the Alliance encounter, i guess the fascists and Floch fan boys are salty to see their god emperor getting bullied by an old asian granny. |
| Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone. |
Kilimini said: Great chapter highlighting all the moral dilemma's that the Alliance encounter, i guess the fascists and Floch fan boys are salty to see their god emperor getting bullied by an old asian granny. lol. what a dilemma. killing your friends who grew up with you to save countries who treat you like a dog. such an impossible choice. |
| I may be alone on this, but did anyone feel like not much really happened this chapter? I mean the highlights were of course Samual and Daz v Armin/connie and Floch getting his ass kicked by kiyomi. But other than that it felt light and short. Seems like the last 4 months have been. |
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| Imagine being such a pathetic group of people that you start killing your own people for the sake of the survival of your enemy that will annihilate you after you save their ass lmao |
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| Good chapter Yelena saying to levi you can t take violence away from people War between Yeagerists vs Surver corps and major Marleys characters begins Floch is depiscable I wonder what Eren is doing at this point. I have no idea why Paradis main characters and survey corps are helping Marleys. But considering I am pretty sure Hajime will give Paradis main characters and survey corps bittersweet ending. I think paradis will be save at end of this manga. Look likes kyomi and her faction are save by paradis main characters and survey corps. I think Yeagerist will lose this war. But Stopping Eren is impossible at this point. I trust Hajime isayama knows what is doing hopefully. As much as I want eren to win and achieve his goal. I put my trust in Hajime isayama writing just like I do with Gotouge the creator and writer of KNY |
DemonDarknightApr 6, 2020 11:24 AM
| Just when I thought Floch couldn't get more pathetic he gets his lame ass beat by Kiyomi haha. |
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| I think that to me this is the point where the chapter got extremely questionable They shoot Armin full of bullets, which they're fully aware of the fact that he's a titan shifter and can quickly recover from it, but hesitate to do the same to Connie and hold him at gunpoint ? That is bullshit, even if you were to argue that they are friends and hesitated, or that they wanted to prevent Armin from shifting, wouldn't it be more effective to just instantly take out one of the betrayers even if you risk dying yourself, than shooting a shifter, accomplishing nothing, and then dying anyway ? Friendship wall called off the moment they showed no hesitation to shoot Armin full of bullets. |
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| @Hatsuyuki Are they aware that Armin is a titan shifter? If yes, that may very well be the reason why they shoot knowing it would't kill him? Because they seem pretty hesitant to shoot their friends, even Daz was pointing the gun at Armin forehead telling him to stop and he didn't pull the trigger. I think it would be more questionable if they didn't know he was a shifter. |
keragammingApr 6, 2020 12:42 PM
| Oh enough of the Peace Alliance wanking already. How many times has it been that the Marleyans kneel and praise them like bitches ? We get it, 104th good and Floch bad These last chapters have just been killing the manga |
| I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what Isayama is saying about our society. Is it basically a 'humans suck'? Or am I missing some important piece of nuance? It might be more prudent to wait for the conclusion before extrapolating possible meanings and interpretations, but I just can't help myself. The closer we get closer to the ending, the less likely I think things will end well. I better start mentally preparing myself. |
| Oh man I just wanna see Floch die yet his useless ass keeps pulling through every difficult situation. Come on Isayama! It's depressing to see Connie shooting his comrades, it must have been really hard for him yet it was necessary in the long run, probably. Really hoping to see Eren's side soon |
| Well we are getting closer to the end are we not? As one will say. There was no other way... |
Luciberi said: Kilimini said: Great chapter highlighting all the moral dilemma's that the Alliance encounter, i guess the fascists and Floch fan boys are salty to see their god emperor getting bullied by an old asian granny. lol. what a dilemma. killing your friends who grew up with you to save countries who treat you like a dog. such an impossible choice. Jeez i'll always be impressed by how much this fandom lacks nuance to appreciate a very well crafted story. The bosniaks should've killed all the serbs uh ? |
| Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone. |
Kilimini said: Luciberi said: lol. what a dilemma. killing your friends who grew up with you to save countries who treat you like a dog. such an impossible choice. Jeez i'll always be impressed by how much this fandom lacks nuance to appreciate a very well crafted story. The bosniaks should've killed all the serbs uh ? comparing real world events to fiction which is constructed in a way that the hate is maxed is useless. there is no bosnian or jew in snk. it's a jumble of our world history's wars and hate magnified by hundred. there in no country irl which was marginalized as much as Paradis. everyone hates them. even Hizuru would have thrown them under the bus if iceburst stone hadn't existed. in the international forum it was decided that Island devils are irredeemable. the whole world treat Eldians like shit(even worse than Marley) and they have even worse idea about Paradisians. their destruction or enslavement was inevitable. Paradisians have as much a right to live as everyone else. so when I have to choose between them or the world I would choose them because the world are aggressors. |
| Connie chose to kill his comrades because that would mean saving more lives. That was a tough decision, and he has my respect. Lol! Floch must be so humiliated since an unarmed old lady won against him. Um, Armin, you're a titan. Heal yourself! I hope a great amount of Marley gets damaged. We have been hearing about the scary wall titans ever since Annie had been captured, and if they don't do enough damage, that would be disappointing. I miss Eren. I hope he rebuilds Levi's body parts and grants him a little more height to make sure Levi won't beat the crap out of him again. (Though, it's starting to look like he likes it.) I really enjoy seeing Annie. I wonder why. We don't really know her all that much. |
| Well that's it, I'm cheering for Floch now. The peace squad are absolutely delusional. |
NewV3xed said: Kyomi suddenly turns into a Ninja and beats a well trained soldier . You are assuming you know everything about Kyomi, one thing I know she comes from the same bad ass clan as Mikasa, so it shouldn't come as a surprise. |
Luciberi said: Kilimini said: Jeez i'll always be impressed by how much this fandom lacks nuance to appreciate a very well crafted story. The bosniaks should've killed all the serbs uh ? comparing real world events to fiction which is constructed in a way that the hate is maxed is useless. there is no bosnian or jew in snk. it's a jumble of our world history's wars and hate magnified by hundred. there in no country irl which was marginalized as much as Paradis. everyone hates them. even Hizuru would have thrown them under the bus if iceburst stone hadn't existed. in the international forum it was decided that Island devils are irredeemable. the whole world treat Eldians like shit(even worse than Marley) and they have even worse idea about Paradisians. their destruction or enslavement was inevitable. Paradisians have as much a right to live as everyone else. so when I have to choose between them or the world I would choose them because the world are aggressors. AOT is miroring our world, the context may be different, but all the emotions are very humane. AOT is just taking all the hate that you could feel and magnifying it in a story. Rwanda, Bosnia, Armenia our history is full of cases where two sides hate each other to the point that no solution can be accepted other that the complete anihilation of the other side. Isayama is making us reflect on those emotions and the harm of propaganda and the warmongering mindset of the world. A mindset that is on the rise in our contemporary world. If tomorrow the governments of the world start preaching to anihilate a nation and present a convincing propaganda, you people, genocide supporters will not be on the right side of History. |
| Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone. |
Kilimini said: Luciberi said: comparing real world events to fiction which is constructed in a way that the hate is maxed is useless. there is no bosnian or jew in snk. it's a jumble of our world history's wars and hate magnified by hundred. there in no country irl which was marginalized as much as Paradis. everyone hates them. even Hizuru would have thrown them under the bus if iceburst stone hadn't existed. in the international forum it was decided that Island devils are irredeemable. the whole world treat Eldians like shit(even worse than Marley) and they have even worse idea about Paradisians. their destruction or enslavement was inevitable. Paradisians have as much a right to live as everyone else. so when I have to choose between them or the world I would choose them because the world are aggressors. AOT is miroring our world, the context may be different, but all the emotions are very humane. AOT is just taking all the hate that you could feel and magnifying it in a story. Rwanda, Bosnia, Armenia our history is full of cases where two sides hate each other to the point that no solution can be accepted other that the complete anihilation of the other side. Isayama is making us reflect on those emotions and the harm of propaganda and the warmongering mindset of the world. A mindset that is on the rise in our contemporary world. If tomorrow the governments of the world start preaching to anihilate a nation and present a convincing propaganda, you people, genocide supporters will not be on the right side of History. Well if the whole world wanted our annihilation, I don't think I'd give much of a fuck how I'd look like to them. In fact, if genocide did happen in that context, then we would be the good guys in the history books, fighting the oppressors for freedom. |
Whayle said: Kilimini said: AOT is miroring our world, the context may be different, but all the emotions are very humane. AOT is just taking all the hate that you could feel and magnifying it in a story. Rwanda, Bosnia, Armenia our history is full of cases where two sides hate each other to the point that no solution can be accepted other that the complete anihilation of the other side. Isayama is making us reflect on those emotions and the harm of propaganda and the warmongering mindset of the world. A mindset that is on the rise in our contemporary world. If tomorrow the governments of the world start preaching to anihilate a nation and present a convincing propaganda, you people, genocide supporters will not be on the right side of History. Well if the whole world wanted our annihilation, I don't think I'd give much of a fuck how I'd look like to them. In fact, if genocide did happen in that context, then we would be the good guys in the history books, fighting the oppressors for freedom. This logic is so flawed on so many levels it's laughable, if tomorrow a palestinian kill every last israeli because they deny his "freedom" would he be looked as a hero ??? absolutely fucking not it would be one of the worst event in human history. And it's obviously just as awful the other way around. And believe me, having seen both sides the hatred they have toward each other far surpass anything you could describe in fiction, yet the world is trying to find a peaceful way out to the crisis, because genocide is bad and you need no other frickin reason to oppose it. Jeez we've hit rock bottom of human decency. |
| Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone. |
Whayle said: Oh enough of the Peace Alliance wanking already. How many times has it been that the Marleyans kneel and praise them like bitches ? We get it, 104th good and Floch bad These last chapters have just been killing the manga That is the opposite of what Isayama is painting though, this chapter basically shows us how the scouting legion are hypocrites it also shows us that talk no jutsu ain't going to work, they wanted this to end without killing their comrades but in the end the inevitable still happens. You got it the wrong way. |
| Holy crap, this chapter was super intense. I really really liked Magath's character resolution at the beginning too. Anyway, let's be real, we know this series, this wouldn't possibly end well as a plan, apparently Floch already traced the possibility that they might have allied with the Marleyans too, so it was bound to happen. Azumabito granny was absolutely badass and "put Floch in his place" lol Fucking loved that haha This chapter was great, really hyped for the next one. Hopefully they will finally stop messing with poor Connie's psychological state for a bit, poor guy has been in a chaotic trauma conga line for a while now. 5/5 |
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| You know it's an amazing chapter when you see even us the readers are divided, which encourages a room for "discussion". :) The parallel is getting out of hand... in a good way. Like, damn! Connie gets to experience first hand what Bertholdt felt when he was pushed to a corner. |
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level  on mal-badges. View my badges. |
FuMomo-kun said: On the contrary, I commend Floch for surviving his encounter with TWO angry Asian women. lolConnie chose to kill his comrades because that would mean saving more lives. That was a tough decision, and he has my respect. Lol! Floch must be so humiliated since an unarmed old lady won against him. Um, Armin, you're a titan. Heal yourself! Healing still takes time even for experienced Titan shifters.I miss Eren. I hope he rebuilds Levi's body parts and grants him a little more height to make sure Levi won't beat the crap out of him again. (Though, it's starting to look like he likes it.) I bet Eren doing all this hoping for Levi to "discipline" him more appropriately next time. :)I really enjoy seeing Annie. I wonder why. We don't really know her all that much. Me too. I think Annie looks so badass with her hair let loose. |
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level on mal-badges. View my badges. |
| at this rate i don't see how the manga is gonna be ending this year... |
| This was intense. Despite not even knowing anything about Daz or Samuel, the conflict didn't feel superficial, I liked how it was handled. The direction this chapter took overall is one that I'm completely on board with. This situation is just getting messier by the second lol The panel where Reiner and Annie both transformed made me nut slightly ngl. flex_ said: at this rate i don't see how the manga is gonna be ending this year... You and me both. For a while now I've been thinking that this could end early 2021. |
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RPWPA said: Funny how Armin was like we can talk about this and then he goes and does this shit even stating he would be ok to dirty his hands. Really should have chosen Erwin. Unless Armin does something absolutely crucial towards the end that stops Eren, then I would be forced to agree with you. Erwin would have provided leadership, discipline and focus that the odd good deed by Armin simply cannot match. I wish Isayama would drop the preachy dialogue. It's getting old. We get it by now. "War is bad; violence begets more violence; don't do unto others what you do no want done unto you; we all lie and cheat to get what we want; my hero is your villain....etc etc. Have them talk less and do more and let the audience be the judge. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Kilimini said: Whayle said: Well if the whole world wanted our annihilation, I don't think I'd give much of a fuck how I'd look like to them. In fact, if genocide did happen in that context, then we would be the good guys in the history books, fighting the oppressors for freedom. This logic is so flawed on so many levels it's laughable, if tomorrow a palestinian kill every last israeli because they deny his "freedom" would he be looked as a hero ??? absolutely fucking not it would be one of the worst event in human history. And it's obviously just as awful the other way around. And believe me, having seen both sides the hatred they have toward each other far surpass anything you could describe in fiction, yet the world is trying to find a peaceful way out to the crisis, because genocide is bad and you need no other frickin reason to oppose it. Jeez we've hit rock bottom of human decency. But Israel and Palestine aren't the only two countries in the world. Eren's genocide will exterminate the whole world, which means the Eldians will be the ones writing the history book. So they will be the good guys. |
keragamming said: Whayle said: Oh enough of the Peace Alliance wanking already. How many times has it been that the Marleyans kneel and praise them like bitches ? We get it, 104th good and Floch bad These last chapters have just been killing the manga That is the opposite of what Isayama is painting though, this chapter basically shows us how the scouting legion are hypocrites it also shows us that talk no jutsu ain't going to work, they wanted this to end without killing their comrades but in the end the inevitable still happens. You got it the wrong way. I know that already, hypocrits and that you can't fight a conflict without fighting. When I say Peace Alliance wanking is how unorganic their wanking by the Marleyan Soldiers seemed to feel like in these later chapters. Magath was the icing on the cake, starts to implore them like a bitch out of nowhere just for the readers to gain more sympathy for him. It feels like author really wants you to be on the Peace side and is forcing it down your throat. Put all the fodders on the other team, villainize Floch to the max and make him suffer ridiculous humiliations by an old granny |
Whayle said: keragamming said: That is the opposite of what Isayama is painting though, this chapter basically shows us how the scouting legion are hypocrites it also shows us that talk no jutsu ain't going to work, they wanted this to end without killing their comrades but in the end the inevitable still happens. You got it the wrong way. I know that already, hypocrits and that you can't fight a conflict without fighting. When I say Peace Alliance wanking is how unorganic their wanking by the Marleyan Soldiers seemed to feel like in these later chapters. Magath was the icing on the cake, starts to implore them like a bitch out of nowhere just for the readers to gain more sympathy for him. It feels like author really wants you to be on the Peace side and is forcing it down your throat. Put all the fodders on the other team, villainize Floch to the max and make him suffer ridiculous humiliations by an old granny Jaegerists like Daz or Samuel are shown to be here just to protect their families - but Floch is shown to be a supremacist. I'm pretty much sure they have just villainized Floch and not the jeagerists. |
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