lastwhisper31 said: Sleipnirr said: Its simple why would you want an active and engaged town. I already said the benefits of scum controlling the flow but let me state it again. If you remember SoulEaterQueen's past games when she was scum she tended to keep town active despite normally that being harmfull for scum but when she did that it was usefull to the scum instead. The reason being since she was controlling the flow she was choosing who was going to be lynched or focused and she played it magnificently. She focused a townie till the end of the phase and when that townie claimed near the end of the phase they had to randomly pick a lynch which would end up another townie. So I believe you are trying to do the same here. Controlling the town while being active and gaining town cred and protecting your teammates. Remember that this is a majority lynch if scum manages to keep us from lynching , the towns greatest if not only weapon will be gone and they would be as good as won. So Lucian seeing this and your change in meta cant you really say why I am voting you right now? or maybe thats what your trying to do? Im all for wild theories but this takes the cake, you literally came up with this after one post. Maybe its you manipulating the game, eyy? see how easily this can be turned around? Jesus... lol. Lmao and as someone that had a self meta created for them after like one game I can relate, but im telling you now, as someone who has seen this apparently returned Lucian, I can tell you hes no different then usual. But I guess thats all a matter of opinion isnt it? Edit: he has many more posts now I get that it, but the main accusation came after one specific post. Edit 2: Going to sleep now Lol you havent even seen half of what I can do with wild theories. Compared to the theories I usually make this can even be considered mild. Anyway yeah there is always the possibility of me being scum (eventhough I am not) but I am trying to show the importance of flow in this game and I honestly dont like this lucian controlling the flow. I dont like anyone controlling the flow. Also I should still say that my posts are not to control town if you have paid attention to them. I only attacked lucian and did not ask anyone to follow me while Lucian openly asked for a leading position in town with these exact lines 'If anyone is interested in how town can optimally carry out a majority lynch, you just have to ask me, or I'll explain in greater detail should we need to cross that kind of bridge'. Lastly when we dont have anything to go with its better to attack with what you have. I believe in mafia games attacking always provides more information about someone. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: You're a lynch target because you're generally scummy.aa-dono said: I love that there's two honorifics there <3 <3 But hmm~ do you remember Shin coz he's a lynch target always D1? Since iirc you were not his twin. Edit: put the gif in spoiler tag. I did not expect the picture to be big >< Honestly i forgot for a second that dono is also an honorific haha, I am a lynch target because scum always find a way to manipulate the town into lynching me. |
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LucianRoy said: I've played 2 games with AbuHeman.lastwhisper31 said: Idk I played 1 game with him (even tho I clearly stated he reminded me of you), and he was somewhat inactive, so this is a good start for him. It's been a minute. First game he was inactive and got lynched, he flipped scum. Second game he was inactive and got replaced, his slot flipped scum. |
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lastwhisper31 said: You should know better by now than to assume that Togs talks. xDalso removing my RVS unvote, nothing will come of it, if togs doesnt talk, and id rather focus on something more meaningful |
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AlbertinoDias said: Bruh, how are we gonna get a tie where both vote trains have 8 or more votes when the total playerbase is 15.lastwhisper31 said: okii dokii I dont think anything of it, ahh lol now I get it, but ya like I said, your post is pretty NAI, maybe a lack of knowledge of games? It definitely doesnt seem suspicious to me especially when you said you lacked experience, and for Sleip to jump on that Im honestly more suspicious of him. But how I see it, if you were tpr, then stating that there may not be any tpr, would only increase suspicion of you, and Sleip jumped on that comment with idk exactly his thoughts on it. Also his vote is still on lucian. If he sees it as a slip then I think hes pretty alone on that, cause its pretty NAI to me, it was just an innocent question. lastwhisper31 said: lol okSorry that was just a random thing I read, and it reminded me of a previous game haha Edit: To clarify, it was off the mafia scum wiki, giving examples of how to catch obvious scum btw it's time to go to the wonderland, so, tomorrow i'll write again see ya guys, (but before i go) i was reading everything again, so if we do not have 8 votes we can't lynch right?? but in case of a tie, what happens?? |
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AlbertinoDias said: No?Yes yes, I know day 1 we can't have a tie, but day 2 we can, I was just asking what would happen, I know games where it ends with no lunch and games where the coin is flipped to see who dies You always need a majority. 50/50 is not a majority. Capiche? |
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AbuHumaid said: The beef is burned if you're not gonna be more active than you usually are.aight i'm here, so what's the beef? |
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Sleipnirr said: Preventing town from working together works great for scum too. If lucian is town then that's seemingly what you're trying to do.LucianRoy said: I can't say anything game relevant to that game because it's ongoing, but I will say this as a general statement: I realized why I was playing poorly and decided to change it. I also realized what strengths I had in my past town-games, and so I tried isolating those. I probably wasn't suffering from burnout. Now I know what mistakes I can make in my town-game. I can hold myself to a standard and try to play perfectly, leaving minimum room for error. Making fluff posts, being satirical, and being overly emotional in-game got in the way of that. That said, I don't leave camaraderie or fun at the door. I suppose we are now out of Rvs. It sounds almost like you're favoring the inactive RVS state of the game prior to post 30 or so. If you think that I am scum wanting to control the pace of the game, then how do I benefit from an active and engaged town? Is there anything else that I said you see coming from a scum mindset or scum!Lucian for that matter? --- Shit has indeed started. What's your take on Sleiph's vote? Its simple why would you want an active and engaged town. I already said the benefits of scum controlling the flow but let me state it again. If you remember SoulEaterQueen's past games when she was scum she tended to keep town active despite normally that being harmfull for scum but when she did that it was usefull to the scum instead. The reason being since she was controlling the flow she was choosing who was going to be lynched or focused and she played it magnificently. She focused a townie till the end of the phase and when that townie claimed near the end of the phase they had to randomly pick a lynch which would end up another townie. So I believe you are trying to do the same here. Controlling the town while being active and gaining town cred and protecting your teammates. Remember that this is a majority lynch if scum manages to keep us from lynching , the towns greatest if not only weapon will be gone and they would be as good as won. So Lucian seeing this and your change in meta cant you really say why I am voting you right now? If you want to make this case i won't stop you, but know that it's a rather weak case. |
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AbuHumaid said: Oh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops.wen294 said: i was never replaced when i was scum thoughI've played 2 games with AbuHeman. First game he was inactive and got lynched, he flipped scum. Second game he was inactive and got replaced, his slot flipped scum. Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched. We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum. You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed. Vote change: AbuHeman |
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wen294 said: Sleipnirr said: Preventing town from working together works great for scum too. If lucian is town then that's seemingly what you're trying to do.Its simple why would you want an active and engaged town. I already said the benefits of scum controlling the flow but let me state it again. If you remember SoulEaterQueen's past games when she was scum she tended to keep town active despite normally that being harmfull for scum but when she did that it was usefull to the scum instead. The reason being since she was controlling the flow she was choosing who was going to be lynched or focused and she played it magnificently. She focused a townie till the end of the phase and when that townie claimed near the end of the phase they had to randomly pick a lynch which would end up another townie. So I believe you are trying to do the same here. Controlling the town while being active and gaining town cred and protecting your teammates. Remember that this is a majority lynch if scum manages to keep us from lynching , the towns greatest if not only weapon will be gone and they would be as good as won. So Lucian seeing this and your change in meta cant you really say why I am voting you right now? If you want to make this case i won't stop you, but know that it's a rather weak case. Yeah its the only case I have right now. Also I am all for working together Its just that I dont want anyone to be in the mayor position. |
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Zymf said: AlbertinoDias said: This gives me slight scum-vibes based on how I personally play.i mean you're talking about me... i would like to defend myself but... you don't even ask anything to the person in question (or the other one....) is it bad that i want to defend myself?? (that was something like, hey hey hey, look at me, can i say something?? :D ) so yeah... 1. I always like to defend myself, but especially as scum, because I'll often have a defence prepared and ready. 2. I am often very open and honest, but especially as scum, because I want to earn the towns trust that way. Vote: AlbertinoDias Let's hear your "defence" then, if you have anything to say. AlbertinoDias said: No lunch!? How terrible :O!!!I know games where it ends with no lunch and games where the coin is flipped to see who dies (who will have to eat the other so that both doesn't starve to death? That must be decided by the coin) lynch* I was on the phone.... so hear me out, most people (at least on MAL) play like this: Step1-do the RVs step2- note some reactions step3- compare that reactions with previous games.... But... what if?? someone play most mafia games IRL and not in forums?? and you don't know that person?? that way how are you going to compare her(her/him... you get it)??, well one thing that you can do, is what you're doing, compare it to yourself....and let me tell you (and the rest ofc xD) for future reference, i like to defend myself(ofc i like... i don't want to die... who wants to die??) either it be town or mafia, because defending yourself is a tool to be used by town and mafia, you can get reactions and maybe a better read on someone; i play open, all games, i confuse many people, that's me... can't do nothing about it, and everyone wants to earn the town trust, the town wants to earn the town trust, there is a mutual objective between town and mafia, and that is, get the town trust (at least this is how i see it) To ""defend"" myself i was going to use the same mechanics of MAL, past reference (it seems to work...) and i was going to say that last game early on we were also looking for the TPR, i was considered suspicious for that... i was town... because i though he was saying i could be mafia because of that comment, so being the "suspect" i think that hearing me out first befor asking other people what they thought was the best choice, because most games i was in, if someone just defended himself out of nowhere, it would be considered a defence move and would be marked right away as mafia :) i don't want that :) so, i asked if he would give me the chance to say something in my defence. (i think this is all, if i missed something, tell em xD) |
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aa-dono said: Stuff happened. I don't think I can concentrate on this game for a while. Worst case, I'll ask for replacement. Sorry. sad to hear that :c AbuHumaid said: wen294 said: it's not like I'm lurking on purpose, tbh i don't know what to talk about or react to so I'd rather people ask me questions, then the debate starts from thereOh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops. Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched. We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum. You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed. Vote change: AbuHeman Well I'll be the one to ask then. Although this is D1, is there anyone who seems scummy to you? |
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| @AlbertinoDias Where else do you play mafia online? :o just curious Also, is this your first game in this club? |
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AbuHumaid said: Red_Salmon said: there's nothing out of the ordinary right now everyone is neutral for me, what about you got any reads?sad to hear that :c Well I'll be the one to ask then. Although this is D1, is there anyone who seems scummy to you? Nothing solid that I can point my finger on atm. I only town read Sleipnirr and lastwhisper right now for their pro-town posts What's your take on Albert's reaction in #164 and on Sleip's interaction in #151 |
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Sleipnirr said: Shinichi-Kun said: that was also what I was planning to but this game is different. Normally I have no qualm with being inactive and waiting because I know that when I come back the game will still be there but this time there is the possibility of early finishing as soon as hitting 8 votes on someone so there is not really a point of waiting as the phase might just end before you even get a chance to get a chance to say something. So I suggest if somebody is thinking along this lines and just observing I would suggest them to start posting and join the discussionOh shit that does remind me, sleipnirr never posts this much during the first 24 hours, normally he just observes. Hmm if you really thought we come to a consensus that fast ur crazy lmfao |
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wen294 said: Shinichi-Kun said: You're a lynch target because you're generally scummy.Honestly i forgot for a second that dono is also an honorific haha, I am a lynch target because scum always find a way to manipulate the town into lynching me. shhhh you >3> Just go back to lynching togs lol |
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AbuHumaid said: wen294 said: it's not like I'm lurking on purpose, tbh i don't know what to talk about or react to so I'd rather people ask me questions, then the debate starts from thereOh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops. Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched. We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum. You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed. Vote change: AbuHeman Thats bs lol people are willing to help you, plus you've played a handful of games. |
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Sleipnirr said: wen294 said: Preventing town from working together works great for scum too. If lucian is town then that's seemingly what you're trying to do. If you want to make this case i won't stop you, but know that it's a rather weak case. Yeah its the only case I have right now. Also I am all for working together Its just that I dont want anyone to be in the mayor position. The chance of someone being in that position is quite high though, just depends on how they word things and use that position. Its quite a bd mentality to just assume a person leading town this early has to be scum |
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Red_Salmon said: @AlbertinoDias Where else do you play mafia online? :o just curious Also, is this your first game in this club? online i only play on MAL this is my 2nd game in the club and the 3rd game on MAL |
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AbuHumaid said: And if everyone was like that it'd an auto-lose for town.wen294 said: it's not like I'm lurking on purpose, tbh i don't know what to talk about or react to so I'd rather people ask me questions, then the debate starts from thereOh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops. Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched. We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum. You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed. Vote change: AbuHeman Besides, if you don't try to do it you'll never learn how to do it. You're just making excuses so as to not put in effort :\ Speaking from past games, i'm sure i will get down to that eventually xD |
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AlbertinoDias said: Red_Salmon said: @AlbertinoDias Where else do you play mafia online? :o just curious Also, is this your first game in this club? online i only play on MAL this is my 2nd game in the club and the 3rd game on MAL I see I see! Then I'll call you senpai :p as you've played more than me |
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AbuHumaid said: Red_Salmon said: can you explain why do you think that lastwhisper's Sleipnirr's posts are pro town?Nothing solid that I can point my finger on atm. I only town read Sleipnirr and lastwhisper right now for their pro-town posts What's your take on Albert's reaction in #164 and on Sleip's interaction in #151 About Albert, i agree with him and Zymf's reasons for scum reading him are weak from the first place so such reaction is to be expected. About Sleipnirr, that post feels townish it's true that no one should control the game and decide who should be lynched and who shouldn't. Well I town read Lastwhisper because of the vigor with which they tried to get things on track back on page 2. Just a general feeling I guess. As for Sleipnirr, he too is trying to get people to start maybe-ing people. I'm indifferent about the mayor thingy. Pretending too hard to be town might show later. But not now. |
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| Ok, so im all caught up for now, screw you guys. Left when it was still page 2 and had to read 4 freaking pages of conversations when i finally got around to play. First of all, i thought that there was no TPR in this game since it was not mentioned, is it possible that the game master would intentionally not mention TPR win condition in some other game so as to make it appear lie there was npo TPR? Eh, ill go with ''theres no tpr this game'' Secondly,Whats L-1, L-2? Sometimes there were many ideas that i couldnt understand like Sliepner's(or how one spells it) ''wild theories'' Somebody help me? Thirdly, I support Suzune here, the faster we lynch someone collectively the better. Mafia is better the longer the game goes. I was tempted to follow Wen in his vote for abuhumaid just so i can get something out of that doesnt sound so....neutral. His replies have so far been short and to the point, which doesnt leave much info into his thinking patterns. Atleast he is more active than his last game... |
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ironace said: L-1, when you're one vote away from achieving a lynch.Secondly,Whats L-1, L-2? Sometimes there were many ideas that i couldnt understand like Sliepner's(or how one spells it) ''wild theories'' Somebody help me? L-2, when you're 2 votes away. (counted after your vote is already placed. So basically when you place the 7th vote say L-1 behind it so we know after yours there's only 1 more vote needed to get a lynch) Also, 4 pages in close to an entire day isn't a lot. In fact, it's a scarily few. |
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ironace said: Ok, so im all caught up for now, screw you guys. Left when it was still page 2 and had to read 4 freaking pages of conversations when i finally got around to play. First of all, i thought that there was no TPR in this game since it was not mentioned, is it possible that the game master would intentionally not mention TPR win condition in some other game so as to make it appear lie there was npo TPR? Eh, ill go with ''theres no tpr this game'' Secondly,Whats L-1, L-2? Sometimes there were many ideas that i couldnt understand like Sliepner's(or how one spells it) ''wild theories'' Somebody help me? Thirdly, I support Suzune here, the faster we lynch someone collectively the better. Mafia is better the longer the game goes. I was tempted to follow Wen in his vote for abuhumaid just so i can get something out of that doesnt sound so....neutral. His replies have so far been short and to the point, which doesnt leave much info into his thinking patterns. Atleast he is more active than his last game... Our game uses a lynch lock system. This means that whenever there are 8 votes (majority) on anyone they will immediately be lynched and the day will end. So the thing is in order to let people know that it's game over for the dude if you vote after me you should write L1 after your vote. Like vote: ironace (L1) It's optional though but considered the politer and smarter thing to do. Similarly L2 means the guy'll be lynched after two posts. Seeing as you just read the whole 4 pages (I commend thee) what do you think of the Sleip-Roy interaction? I also agree with you on the Abuhumaid part. |
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| @ironace i would consider that quite scummy if we like rush the votes on someone quick quick quick to make a lynch. We need to be cautious and not rush. If we go rush route. We probably should just go play roulette and wish best^^ Then again i dont want this to go last minute thing since it will be rushed again. I say if possible 3-4 hours beofre phase change is optimal. Max 2. |
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| @ironace well L-1 and L-2 is that you are calling it when the person you are voting for is getting close to being lynch locked. For example if a person you are voting for has 6 votes and your vote would be the 7th that would be L-1 because there would only be 1 vote left to lynch lock him. This is to avoid lynch locking by accident. About my 'wild theory' they are theories that are not likely to happen. Like 1 in a 100 chance. This is what a wild theory is. From my perspective they are perfectly sou d theories but people like to call them 'wild' |
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Sleipnirr said: Oh wait I got that wrong but I think what I mistook for L-1 should still be done so that we can avoid mislynches while trying to pressure someone and accidently lynch locking. Maybe not with the code L-1 but with something@ironace well L-1 and L-2 is that you are calling it when the person you are voting for is getting close to being lynch locked. For example if a person you are voting for has 6 votes and your vote would be the 7th that would be L-1 because there would only be 1 vote left to lynch lock him. This is to avoid lynch locking by accident. About my 'wild theory' they are theories that are not likely to happen. Like 1 in a 100 chance. This is what a wild theory is. From my perspective they are perfectly sou d theories but people like to call them 'wild' |
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| @wen294 you answered him while I was still typing :p awkward double explanation The_Pyromaani said: @ironace i would consider that quite scummy if we like rush the votes on someone quick quick quick to make a lynch. We need to be cautious and not rush. If we go rush route. We probably should just go play roulette and wish best^^ Then again i dont want this to go last minute thing since it will be rushed again. I say if possible 3-4 hours beofre phase change is optimal. Max 2. Well it certainly wouldn't be considered rushing if we start now as we're still near just the half way point of the game. When we're near the time limit its easier for Mafia to just sheep their way into a wagon. |
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Red_Salmon said: @wen294 you answered him while I was still typing :p awkward double explanation The_Pyromaani said: @ironace i would consider that quite scummy if we like rush the votes on someone quick quick quick to make a lynch. We need to be cautious and not rush. If we go rush route. We probably should just go play roulette and wish best^^ Then again i dont want this to go last minute thing since it will be rushed again. I say if possible 3-4 hours beofre phase change is optimal. Max 2. Well it certainly wouldn't be considered rushing if we start now as we're still near just the half way point of the game. When we're near the time limit its easier for Mafia to just sheep their way into a wagon. I mean yes it good but not too fast. You know what i mean? |
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The_Pyromaani said: Red_Salmon said: @wen294 you answered him while I was still typing :p awkward double explanation Well it certainly wouldn't be considered rushing if we start now as we're still near just the half way point of the game. When we're near the time limit its easier for Mafia to just sheep their way into a wagon. I mean yes it good but not too fast. You know what i mean? I understand your sentiments man We are now exactly 24 hours away from phase end! |
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wen294 said: ]L-1, when you're one vote away from achieving a lynch. L-2, when you're 2 votes away. (counted after your vote is already placed. So basically when you place the 7th vote say L-1 behind it so we know after yours there's only 1 more vote needed to get a lynch) Also, 4 pages in close to an entire day isn't a lot. In fact, it's a scarily few. Thanks, considering my last game, it is indeed very scary, however, for me- who left his home after quite sometime and had to walk around alot- it was a tiring day and even 4 pages can seem like 8 pages lel. |
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| @red_salmon I believe sliep is over reacting on purpose.He is trying to poke him and probably use him as bait but i dont think it will work. Roy has so far a sound town read as to how he defended his playstyle- but since I have never played with him before, I dont know just HOW big of a difference his gameplay is. But, i read somewhere, isnt sliep also not playing in his usual style? But his defense seems kinda weak compared to roys. But maybe, thats because i read roy's post first maybe so im biased? |
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| thanks for the explanation @sleipnirr @the_pyromaani I didnt use the correwct wording there, im not saying that we should rush-that would be as wrong as the last minute lynching.Im saying that we increase our pace so that we dont have to worry about last minute lynching. Also, incase there is no lynch locked, then it will be a tie or will the next most voted person be killed? |
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Red_Salmon said: AbuHumaid said: there's nothing out of the ordinary right now everyone is neutral for me, what about you got any reads? Nothing solid that I can point my finger on atm. I only town read Sleipnirr and lastwhisper right now for their pro-town posts What's your take on Albert's reaction in #164 and on Sleip's interaction in #151 Can you be more precisely about the "pro-town" posts? What do you see in them? Because I really dont get why people are already town reading others...it's just way too unnecessary for me right now. |
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Red_Salmon said: AbuHumaid said: can you explain why do you think that lastwhisper's Sleipnirr's posts are pro town? About Albert, i agree with him and Zymf's reasons for scum reading him are weak from the first place so such reaction is to be expected. About Sleipnirr, that post feels townish it's true that no one should control the game and decide who should be lynched and who shouldn't. Well I town read Lastwhisper because of the vigor with which they tried to get things on track back on page 2. Just a general feeling I guess. As for Sleipnirr, he too is trying to get people to start maybe-ing people. I'm indifferent about the mayor thingy. Pretending too hard to be town might show later. But not now. Nevermind, didnt read this^. What do you think about lucian then? |
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| Page 3 Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: Its not uncommon for mafia to try early on to control the game, it can either add suspicion to them or maybe remove it. But I can tell you as someone who has played multiple games with Roy after he came back from this hiatus?? That he is playing his usually scum hunt game, this definitely town lucian to me, but time will tell. Was there a need to read him this early? (I'm still on page 1) I almost missed it, but Gwen just brought up the most amazing question. @ last, how are you already so certain this is my town-game from only page 1, and how were you able to sort me this early? Oh boy. Vote: Lastwhisper --- You beat me to it. --- Major townvibes from Gwen's approach to the game thus far. Feels like the only other person who's aware of all the non-alignment indicative stuff being repeated in the thread, and they're trying to make the most of it to get out of that situation. The town motivation is tangible. I don't know if I'm being biased because nobody else has brought it up, but I mind-meld with #120 at that stage in the game quite a bit. --- lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: kay all caught up now. my observations: people bringing up tpr for no reason, mechanics talk and already a slight conflict of opinion between lucian, sleipnirr & lastwhisper. The rest seems to be fluff posts and I cant see other people trying to approach other candidates, because they seem to observe the situation first. Which is what I'm doing too I guess :D @lastwhisper31 #108 Most of everyones votes are RVS right now, and Sleip got serious for a reason that I dont believe is scummy, so I chimed in, and stated while Sleip is giving him a scum lead by his early posts, I on the other hand am giving him a more town lean. This does not however mean I have a scum lean on Sleip. A lot of people still havnt talked, and if they want me to come back to this also, then I will. This feels like it completely dodged Gwen's question about townreading me. --- Shinichi-Kun said: lastwhisper31 said: @shinichi-kun I guess I gotta take the place of Logic, gotta make him proud. What do you think of Sleip and Lucian currently. and whats your take on this? and Sleips response? Sleipnirr is being the same as he has in the last few games, but this also leaves me to believe hes letting the last game get to him too much. Lucian is obviously not trolling so i dont understand that accusation by sleipnirr its just weird. Nothing lucian has done has been too telling its all pretty neutral, he always at somepoint tries to lead town. Does 'weird' translate into 'scummy', or does it not warrant a vote? --- Togs said: First off I like the tone of this post, this feels a lot like town Lucian to me. Why's that? --- Zymf said: AlbertinoDias said: This gives me slight scum-vibes based on how I personally play.i mean you're talking about me... i would like to defend myself but... you don't even ask anything to the person in question (or the other one....) is it bad that i want to defend myself?? (that was something like, hey hey hey, look at me, can i say something?? :D ) so yeah... 1. I always like to defend myself, but especially as scum, because I'll often have a defence prepared and ready. 2. I am often very open and honest, but especially as scum, because I want to earn the towns trust that way. Vote: AlbertinoDias Let's hear your "defence" then, if you have anything to say. Where's the scum motive in that post though? Seems like he just wants to talk. --- Togs said: Early town leans, based mostly on gut: Lucian, Lastwhisper, and.. hmm well that’s pretty much it. @Gwendolly, does Togs' townread look like an early attempt to pocket me? I feel like there's not much explanation to go along with it. Was the post he read me town for NAI? Or is there actual tone there? --- lastwhisper31 said: I kinda would like to know what everyone else thinks of sleip. Like I'm ok with wild theories, in the psycho pass game I was all about wild theories to solve the game, and you know what I was wrong with most of them, and it's ok to be wrong. I just think basing all of this off of someone's self meta is just too empty, I would need something more to join on this lynch train. Maybe I'm just bias because I haven't seen this other side of him your referring to I'm not sure how he's so certain of the theory that I'm trying to powerwolf my way into the game. I mean, normally this would go along with some scummy behavior, like me trying to buddy too hard or w/e, but it's mostly meta. I also don't understand this question: Sleipnirr said: So Lucian seeing this and your change in meta cant you really say why I am voting you right now? I don't fully understand what he's prodding at here. --- Red_Salmon said: Lucian feels towny. HELP, I'm being pocketed left and right. |
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ironace said: Thirdly, I support Suzune here, the faster we lynch someone collectively the better. Mafia is better the longer the game goes. I was tempted to follow Wen in his vote for abuhumaid just so i can get something out of that doesnt sound so....neutral. His replies have so far been short and to the point, which doesnt leave much info into his thinking patterns. Atleast he is more active than his last game... I disagree with that one. That's what we DONT want to do. Maybe that's what the mafia plans to do; as in as soon as they found their prey and saved themselves they gonna leave it at that. We should take all the time we have and stay rational and calm 'til the last minute. I dont want to lynch lock anyone with 10 hours left, while we could find some more answers and reactions during that time. And about not enough people being online..there will never be a perfect time for that, so let's just stay with the general timer, but be productive (without panicking). |
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| Page 4 Sleipnirr said: lastwhisper31 said: or maybe thats what your trying to do? Im all for wild theories but this takes the cake, you literally came up with this after one post. Maybe its you manipulating the game, eyy? see how easily this can be turned around? Jesus... lol. Lmao and as someone that had a self meta created for them after like one game I can relate, but im telling you now, as someone who has seen this apparently returned Lucian, I can tell you hes no different then usual. But I guess thats all a matter of opinion isnt it? Edit: he has many more posts now I get that it, but the main accusation came after one specific post. Edit 2: Going to sleep now Lol you havent even seen half of what I can do with wild theories. Compared to the theories I usually make this can even be considered mild. Anyway yeah there is always the possibility of me being scum (eventhough I am not) but I am trying to show the importance of flow in this game and I honestly dont like this lucian controlling the flow. I dont like anyone controlling the flow. Also I should still say that my posts are not to control town if you have paid attention to them. I only attacked lucian and did not ask anyone to follow me while Lucian openly asked for a leading position in town with these exact lines 'If anyone is interested in how town can optimally carry out a majority lynch, you just have to ask me, or I'll explain in greater detail should we need to cross that kind of bridge'. Lastly when we dont have anything to go with its better to attack with what you have. I believe in mafia games attacking always provides more information about someone. So you've used meta to gain an initial read on me, but where will it go from here? Am I controlling the flow of the game? Am I scum trying to powerwolf my way into the good graces of the town? Is there evidence of either the last two questions? --- wen294 said: AbuHumaid said: Oh you're right, i confused you with someone else. Oops.i was never replaced when i was scum though Either way though, if you're gonna be a lurky ass this game i'll make it my goal to get you lynched. We need 8 votes to get a lynch, exluding mafia then that's (most likely) 11 votes from town, of which 8 need to be well placed if we want to have a chance at lynching scum. You don't come here and say "what's the beef" and just not say anything when nobody reacts to you not saying anything usefull. You need to react on your own. The "nobody asked me anything so i'm fine with not doing anything" mentality will get town killed. Vote change: AbuHeman I actually really like this vote because Abu shouldn't be ignored for fear of late-game PoE, and it's important we try and sort him. Wen is just getting to it early. --- @Suzune-chan, much of your posts feel like they're centered around topics that are Nai so far, what's your take on Sleip vs Me? |
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Togs said: Gwendolly said: Cool observations, do you have any opinions on anyone to go with them ?kay all caught up now. my observations: people bringing up tpr for no reason, mechanics talk and already a slight conflict of opinion between lucian, sleipnirr & lastwhisper. The rest seems to be fluff posts and I cant see other people trying to approach other candidates, because they seem to observe the situation first. Which is what I'm doing too I guess :D @lastwhisper31 #108 If I had to pick a side. I'd pick Sleipnirrs side, because I like how he started to form a counter theory, which actually helped to get out of that RVS mode; this could be a scums or towns doing, but atleast it got the game going. And I just found it odd that lastwhisper butted in wit a defence (without lucian letting him defend himself). It's too easy to say that he was protecting him tho. So I dont know yet. |
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| @Lucianroy my question was literally me explaining my point of view and asking if you can see why I voted you or not. Secondly you cant show buddy buddy or other signs of powerwolfing because I called you early before you had time to set up webs to trap town. I mean literally right now everyone will at least have some kind of doubt before following you and thats good enough for me. As pointed out before I am aware this is a weak case but I believe that a potential powerwolf should be called early before influincing town too much. Last time I tried to do this was against karote but in that game eventhough I caught Karote's behaviour and called people told me that it was not enough and convinced me otherwise which resulted in a scum win. This time I wont let that happen. Untill there is a scummier player or I believe that roy is town my vote will stay here. |
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Gwendolly said: try referring them as their avatar's gender thats what I usually do I am a he btwAlso until I not know all your gender; I'm just gonna refer to everyone as a "he" xD Yes, I'm assuming your gender mewhaha! |
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LucianRoy said: lastwhisper31 said: Most of everyones votes are RVS right now, and Sleip got serious for a reason that I dont believe is scummy, so I chimed in, and stated while Sleip is giving him a scum lead by his early posts, I on the other hand am giving him a more town lean. This does not however mean I have a scum lean on Sleip. A lot of people still havnt talked, and if they want me to come back to this also, then I will. This feels like it completely dodged Gwen's question about townreading me. I know right? I got that feeling too and hence I said: I wasnt asking about Sleip. |
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